I think they are developing the expertise in an area where we didn't have that knowledge before. One of the reasons—and this came out in the research literature—that we had so many failures in that first round in the 1990s was that people didn't know what they were doing. They were literally creating the rules as they went along, and creating the knowledge and the competencies, and now it is being systematized in this agency at the federal level to provide help to provinces and municipalities. I think that's a good thing.
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