On the evolution of the staff at Canadian Heritage, from the time of the Olympics, let's say, which was probably the highest, at about 2,300 people in 2009-10, we're at a current staff of about 1,753 people, and we're moving lower than that. We've had both an operational and a staff permanent reduction of 30%. When you include reductions of people who were affected by temporary projects like the Olympics and others—
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