Thank you, Mr. Smiciklas.
Thank you, Bernard.
That concludes our first round of questioning, and we're doing well for time. That was about 35 minutes to go a complete round, and we'll get a second round for committee members, if they wish.
Just before we begin, I'd like to ask witnesses to expand on one item that we touched on, and that is the job creation through the energy conservation component.
Mr. Love, you cited it, and Ms. Duncan was interested in it as well. When I was the head of the carpenters' union in my province, we did a study on the number of person years of employment in energy retrofitting as opposed to the construction of new generating stations. At that time it was three to seven times the person years, so a unit of energy harvested out of the existing system through demand-side management measures, as opposed to supply side, created as much as seven times the person years of employment per dollar.
Have you done any research, or could you validate those figures 20 years later in today's terms?