Not exactly. I think what I was trying to say is that when the federal government started, the private sector was nowhere to be seen. Just like Stephen, I never thought that we would sit in the same room with them, ever. But they have come a long way very quickly recently, over the last three years. On the new building construction, I think the federal government and the private sector are actually on par, even though we see a lot more private sector projects now that are aiming for LEED platinum, because it's a market competition thing. On the existing buildings side and using LEED for existing buildings on the larger properties, right now the private sector is ahead of any level of government in Canada—ahead of the municipalities, the provinces, and the federal government as well.
On March 19th, 2013. See this statement in context.