John McCallum at the Government Operations and Estimates Committee

Thank you.

I notice that the public service leadership and direction budget has been cut in half, more or less, from $4.5 million to $2.4 million, or something like that. If at least a part of this transformation and renewal was added to that budget, that would mean an even bigger cut for the rest of the people.

I'd like to know, first of all, what is the budget of the Business Transformation and Renewal Secretariat? And what was cut to achieve that reduction, which looks as if it's at least 50%?