This board would not be privy to that information, sir. The legal fees.... Well, first of all, the employer, the Treasury Board, is represented by the Department of Justice, their in-house counsel. For the trade unions, some use external counsel, but the Public Service Alliance of Canada, for example, the largest trade union, has quite a number of in-house counsel on staff and—
On May 7th, 2013. See this statement in context.