It's whoever wants to do the science and research.
That's the beauty of Canada, in that we do have very strong academic institutions that are doing the non-applied sort of science and research. Then you've got companies that get involved and engaged and will actually put some money on the table to help get more applied research done, answer the specific questions they need to do business better, and then the government regulators... It's hit and miss.
Some provinces have curtailed their research and science programs. I think it's to the detriment of the situation. Again, they have their unique perspective as regulators on managing forests for all values, for all Canadians. You get that mix and it's pretty powerful. It can answer those questions, produce the data that we need to inspire pride and confidence in Canadian forestry. That's what we want our customers around the world to know, that we're sustainable and it's all based on that science from all different sources. That's where our members are spread out.