I was going to follow up a bit on the question that my colleague asked in terms of having those resources. You said that apparently in many of the cases you don't have them in order to get the large contracts, and that's where joint ventures....
How do you work to promote within your industry, within your region, wherever that contract...? Let's use Ottawa. You've used that in terms of the project that's under way but also the ones that are on the way. How do you promote that you're interested in a joint venture so that as a small company, or even as employees for a company, you can get jobs in these projects?