You mentioned shipbuilding, which is great. I've been out to Irving, and I was out to Seaspan just a short while ago in Esquimalt to see the work there. It's great that they're engaging.
Is there anything that we are doing as part of PSAB to encourage first nation participation in the trades and apprenticeships? If you go to Irving and Seaspan, there's a demand for high-skilled trade work. It's great that we have requirements and engagement, but are we doing that first step to get indigenous people into the trades and into the apprenticeships so that they can better qualify or better bid for these businesses?