When it comes to three and a half minutes, I'll share it with Mr. Drouin.
Thank you all for being here. I am trying to come to grips with what you're saying from an industry perspective, from a business perspective, and looking at it from a government perspective. Government bureaucracy is always risk-adverse.
Mr. Gamble, you were saying that by using best price versus low price, we're losing out on innovation, and we're losing out on truthfulness. We saw it in Phoenix. It's a boondoggle. We were told there were life savings. No. There are no life savings. In fact, we have to wear it, as MPs.
How would you help the government—through your QBS system—to ensure that procurement is done, governance is proper, and that there is training? Mr. Kendrick was talking about there not being enough training. How do you marry the two?