I appreciate how you've taken your time to be here with us again today.
There is so much in common. Everyone is coming from a very similar perspective. There's not much daylight between the opinions you guys are expressing today, and that means those opinions are heard a little better on this side, because there is some corroboration.
Mr. Leduc, you said that there are a ton of smart people in the public sector, and over 60% have university degrees. That leads one to think there must be a problem with the culture. Maybe it's not a problem, but maybe the culture needs to be improved or changed, or let's say “adapted”, without trying to put a negative spin on it.
I was taught when I was studying that if you want to change behaviour in an enterprise, you have to measure and reward the behaviour you want. Is part of the problem that we're not measuring the right things and we're not rewarding the behaviour we want? Isn't that what it comes down to?