Sorry, if I may, are there documented outcomes from these discussions?
When we look at this report, there is an organizational chart that shows all kinds of meetings from a variety of different committees that reported through to executives who then reported through to the minister and deputy minister. I can imagine that at the time, they thought they had wonderful collaborative meetings where people were encouraged to speak their minds. Maybe not...but whether that's the case or not, there were no documented decisions. It leaves the public to conclude that circular, inconclusive meetings took place, and then two or three executives made decisions without disclosing evidence and facts to their superiors.
What are the concrete steps that are going create actual accountability, rather than just more feel-good type of discussions around the culture of meetings?