They are happening, absolutely. We're speaking with insurance organizations. Intact, out of Waterloo, is one of our primary ones, with Blair Feltmate, whom you may know. We know that the insurance companies are very aware of the huge payouts they're having to give for the impacts of climate change on buildings. They're aware this is happening. The numbers are growing every year. More consistently there are these high numbers. We're having these conversations.
We've explored different ways. We've explored different topics, such as whether if a building is shown to be as resilient as it possibly can be, there could be some opportunity with insurance. Those conversations haven't resulted in anything yet, but there definitely is a conversation happening within the industry on that topic.