There are a couple of different questions there. I'll try to address them both.
The first was around what is the financial state of the plan. Part of that debate, which I think you have been hearing at the committee, is around whether the pension should have to make solvency payments, because pensions are funded in two different ways. That's either on a “going concern” basis, which assumes the corporation continues as a going concern, or on a solvency basis, which assumes the corporation winds up.
In Ontario, which I think is the right approach, it's basically saying that you only have to fund on a solvency basis if you don't adopt certain governance changes. If you make some changes to improve the plan—