Let's go to pensions.
Thanks for your comments. We don't have enough time to listen to you fully, but I want to get to a couple of things.
You mentioned defined benefit versus defined contribution plans. We were chatting about this yesterday. We saw with Unifor and GM that everyone was grandfathered on the defined benefit but everyone new is on the contribution plan. You commented on comparable benefits. That plan is not on the comparable benefit one, and I think what had been suggested for Canada Post was not a comparable one as well.
If it's not on a comparable benefit, is it a practical solution to save money, much as General Motors or Unifor has done? I recognize that everyone would like to have more money, but reality is reality.