So there is the wiring of monies there. Partially, banking is being done.
I'll go to you, Mr. Mazer. You have a very complicated work you have presented to us, and that's the pension. In terms of the pension, we were listening to members of the union, as well, who say the financial situation presented by the corporation is not as dire as it seems, but we have Ernst & Young, which has done an audit, so we have some juggling and balancing to do. Ernst & Young claims, despite the fact that the corporation keeps on saying they are in a deficit, that Canada Post keeps showing profit.
You say that converting from DB to DC will be problematic. You state that Canada Post Corporation doesn't have the capability to manage a pension. Would you suggest that the Canada Post pension be merged into the PSAC pension? If so, what impact would it have?