Again, with us I think it's a lack of transparency. We had defined benefit that worked for 40 to 50 years, now all of a sudden it doesn't work and we're not being told why it doesn't work. I think we're comparing apples to oranges with Unifor. You can't pick up Canada Post and move it to Mexico, and that's being held over Unifor's head at every negotiation.
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