Evidence of meeting #5 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was process.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Brian Pagan  Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management, Treasury Board Secretariat
Bill Matthews  Comptroller General of Canada, Treasury Board Secretariat

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

In the second round, we have Conservative, Liberal, Conservative, and in the third round, three minutes for the New Democratic Party.

7:35 p.m.

Liberal

Nick Whalen Liberal St. John's East, NL

No. That is, in fact, incorrect.

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Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Where did you get the third round from, Mr. Chair? This is what we adopted.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

This is what I have been given. My understanding is that this is what we adopted.

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Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

No, we have been following this for the past....

7:35 p.m.

Liberal

Nick Whalen Liberal St. John's East, NL

No, that is not what was adopted.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

We'll go back and check exactly the record. Our clerk is going to examine....

7:35 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

There was never a third round.

7:35 p.m.

Liberal

Nick Whalen Liberal St. John's East, NL

There was no third round, and it was Conservative, Liberal, Conservative, Liberal.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

Nick, I know you weren't here yesterday, but we did exactly this rotation yesterday.

7:35 p.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

No, we didn't. We followed this rotation, but it was not Mr. Weir. It was first Mr. Grewal.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

No, I have the lineup from yesterday, and I can assure you we followed the exact rotation we did today. I am not going to get into an argument.

7:35 p.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

It's not a problem.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

We'll go back and check the rotation that was adopted. The committee obviously has an opportunity to adopt whatever speaking rotation it wishes, so let us first check and see exactly what our records indicate, and we will deal with that tomorrow. There was certainly no intent to skip over anyone.

7:35 p.m.

Liberal

Nick Whalen Liberal St. John's East, NL

I don't want to take it away from Mr. Weir, either.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

We'll go back and find out exactly what we adopted.

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Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Okay.

7:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

Very briefly, these are the two issues that I had. One, as I mentioned yesterday, is for everyone to give consideration to the meeting schedule the week of March 21. The Tuesday meeting will not be held because it is budget day. My question to you for consideration was whether we have a full meeting on Thursday, March 24. That is the day before we break for two weeks for our Easter constituency weeks. If we do not have a full meeting—and it will be up to this committee to determine that—I suggested that we have a subcommittee meeting on agenda, so we can get our work plan established, but I will leave it up to the consensus, hopefully, of this committee. Did you wish a committee meeting to be held on Thursday afternoon, prior to Good Friday, or not?

7:40 p.m.

Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Do we have an agenda for the meeting? If we don't, then let's go with the subcommittee.

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Conservative

Steven Blaney Conservative Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, QC

I would defer that to the subcommittee, to see if there's a witness.

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Liberal

Yasmin Ratansi Liberal Don Valley East, ON

I'm fine with the subcommittee.

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Conservative

Steven Blaney Conservative Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, QC

We already have some extra meetings this week, so it balances.

7:40 p.m.

NDP

Erin Weir NDP Regina—Lewvan, SK

I would prefer, and would quite strongly advocate for, a full meeting on that Thursday, especially given that we're missing the meeting on Tuesday.

7:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

Since we don't seem to have unanimity, maybe let me check on it.

I'll make a decision on that, but first I'll find out if there would be a full two-hour agenda for the Thursday. If not, then I would suggest we go to a subcommittee to develop the work plan. I'm not one to have a meeting for a meeting's sake. I like to have a meeting with a firm agenda in front of us.

7:40 p.m.

NDP

Erin Weir NDP Regina—Lewvan, SK

I absolutely agree, although I guess I would note that the subcommittee did recommend some items that were pushed back to make room for the estimates. Certainly it would be possible to explore those topics on the Thursday.