I would say that's part of the joint governance. That can be one aspect of the joint governance that Michel spoke about. Separating the investment function, let's say, or the benefit policy, etc., from the employer can work. What would the body that oversees it look like instead? It would presumably be some sort of joint body that involves retiree input or member input. That can work, yes.
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