No, I'm not asking about Phoenix. I'm saying that if the public servants are so afraid to even come forward about their paycheques, I'm not getting a strong level of confidence that they feel comfortable coming forward to report wrongdoing. That's what I'm getting at. How are you measuring, or are we measuring, some kind of confidence? Do you believe public servants have confidence in the act? Are they confident that they're going to be protected if they come forward?
On February 7th, 2017. See this statement in context.