I have a response to that as well. The Canadian Standards Association, which is now the CSA Group, recently published a guideline on whistle-blowing. Both Mr. Hutton and I were part of the working group that put that together. One of the chief recommendations for any employer is that you need to create a culture of speaking up, a culture that allows people to feel free to speak up. When you see situations like that and hear about what we're talking about.... Have we over the last 11 years created that kind of culture in the federal public service? No, no, it's not working.
On February 9th, 2017. See this statement in context.