Mr. Hutton, in your statement, you said the first step, when a whistle-blower decides to come forward, is to call the head of the department. I equate that to a situation in which if I'm being harassed by a gang member, the police will call the gang boss and ask if one of their employees is doing this to a member of the society. How would you change that?
I can see why the department, as soon as the deputy is called, would say that it has to protect what's going on in the department, but that creates this culture of covering up as opposed to a culture of openness, as Mr. Cutler said. There's the idea that it has an employee who's sounding the alarm, and it needs to fix that. How do you change that within the act?