Welcome, gentlemen.
Mr. Hayes, I feel I should ask you something just so you haven't wasted your time coming down, but I'm not.
Mr. Chamberlain, what are your thoughts on all the resources that we spend? When Health Canada was our first group of witnesses, I think they said they had 30 people in their office for investigations. Then when they had one, they contracted it out to a private company. Indigenous Affairs has a relatively large office. They've done two investigations over a three-year period. I wonder if you have some thoughts about all the resources that we're spending, department by department, on something that doesn't even seem to be working.