Welcome back. Thank you again for your help.
I just want to follow up on Mr. Drouin's comment about our internal mechanisms, where which every single one of our departments has resources for people to “go to”, for lack of a better word, to whistle-blow, but the problem is that those people report to the deputy minister or the assistant deputy minister. That almost creates a conflict of interest. One of the things you read is that their role is not to protect the whistle-blower but rather to clean up the mess before it gets out of control.
What I've been asking, and maybe Mr. Drouin was asking questions about it too, is whether those people inside the department should be embedded in the department but be completely independent of the department and reporting to an outside agency, whether it's an ombudsman, the Auditor General's office, or to PSIC itself. What are your thoughts on that, please?