In terms of attracting and retaining qualified people, I wonder if you could comment on the Phoenix pay system. It seems to me that the main thing that a lot of Canadians have heard about federal public service employment over the past year is that people aren't getting paid and that it's still a mess, even more so than a year after the new payroll system was implemented.
What's your sense of the Phoenix pay fiasco's effect on attracting people to the federal public service and retaining them?