Mr. Chair, I would have to study those remarks a little bit more carefully, but I do agree that we haven't always done a great job in the public service in terms of linking the programs that we manage and the funds that are entrusted to us with results in a very precise way. I know that in my experience at Canadian Heritage, we've done a lot of work to improve in that area. I certainly think we're making the right progress, but we still have a long way to go.
With respect to the Public Service Commission, I know that it's a data-rich organization, and a lot of that data has actually been made available. We're pushing for more open data that's available to all. I would have to dive into that to be able to understand how we're using the data, and how we are demonstrating outcomes—more than just results, but good outcomes—for Canadians, based on the work that we do, and our responsibilities with respect to recruiting in the public service. I would agree that we have work to do in that area.