I hope not, Madam Chair.
Ms. Lemay, I agree that the software is not at the source of the problem in this whole business. It's rather a matter of structure.
You said that 700 positions in pay services were cut in 2014. I met a senior official from pay services—I won't say anything more to maintain their anonymity—and this person told me that, between February and April 2016, 250 pay services employees were fired. That was during the period when pay issues related to Phoenix began to arise.
How do you explain that?