You'll have to excuse me for being cynical. It looks like the government is just switching from one excuse to another and trying to find someone else to blame. This is the most recent one.
I want to get back to the current steady state. I got a survey from the Association of Canadian Financial Officers. It did a survey with 1,000 respondents showing that there's a 10% increase in the number of pay issues from last fall—when we said we'd actually have Phoenix fixed—to now, so the problems are getting worse. Of course, PIPSC has just filed a policy grievance on behalf of 60,000 workers. The quote from it is that it does not believe the government's numbers.
The unions are saying it's getting worse. Surveys are saying it's getting worse, but you told us about a month ago, I think, that you were turning a corner. Where are we?
You have to understand why there's such a lack of faith in Public Works and with the whole Phoenix issue. We've been promised so many times: “By October 31, we'll clear this. We'll do this. This was a problem.” Every time it's been disproved and we find new goalposts being set. Why should we have faith in your department or faith in what you're saying today?