Evidence of meeting #94 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was campaigns.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Louise Baird  Assistant Secretary, Strategic Communications and Ministerial Affairs, Treasury Board Secretariat
Jani Yates  President and Chief Executive Officer, Advertising Standards Canada
Christiane Fox  Deputy Minister, Intergovernmental Affairs and Youth, Privy Council Office
Marc Saint-Pierre  Director General, Government Information Services Sector, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Janet Feasby  Vice-President, Standards, Advertising Standards Canada
Stéphane Lévesque  Director General of Operations, Communications and Consultations, Privy Council Office

10:15 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

But you just said it's not shared, and you just said it was shared.

10:15 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Intergovernmental Affairs and Youth, Privy Council Office

Christiane Fox

I didn't say it wasn't shared.

10:15 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

You just did.

10:15 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Intergovernmental Affairs and Youth, Privy Council Office

Christiane Fox

We share the data on the click-through rates and the data on the advertising activity. As part of a campaign overview, we would share. If it's also requested by an access to information request, we would also share that. If we got a media call that asked us what the data was on that campaign, we would provide that data.

10:15 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Is it published anywhere?

10:20 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Intergovernmental Affairs and Youth, Privy Council Office

Christiane Fox

I don't think the results are published. ACETs, yes, a million-plus are published.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Do we do oversight on government websites as well to ensure non-partisanship? I realize it's not advertising, but we are paying for these websites.

10:20 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Intergovernmental Affairs and Youth, Privy Council Office

Christiane Fox

Absolutely.

All Government of Canada activities, whether web presence, a news release, or a social media shareable, apply by non-partisan communications standards, so we would have oversight over all the activities to make sure they are respecting the communications policy of the Government of Canada.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

So...no excessive use of red, blue, or orange on websites.

10:20 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Intergovernmental Affairs and Youth, Privy Council Office

Christiane Fox

On the government websites, all communication would have to adhere to the colour requirements for the communications policy.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Yes, that's what I was asking.

Ladies with Advertising Standards Canada, you may have mentioned this, and I'm sorry that I may have missed it. We are having a review of spending over $500,000 in campaigns. Have you done reviews on government spending in smaller campaigns?

10:20 a.m.

Assistant Secretary, Strategic Communications and Ministerial Affairs, Treasury Board Secretariat

Louise Baird

Sorry, I don't think you were aware of it earlier, but two campaigns were submitted for ASC review that fell below the $500,000 threshold.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Was it because they were just marginally below $500,000, or we thought maybe it was a marginal? Why did we submit?

10:20 a.m.

Assistant Secretary, Strategic Communications and Ministerial Affairs, Treasury Board Secretariat

Louise Baird

Any department voluntarily can submit if they want to go through that process.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Okay.

Ladies, is $500,000 the right level we should be looking at? Should we lower it or increase it?

10:20 a.m.

Vice-President, Standards, Advertising Standards Canada

Janet Feasby

We wouldn't know. That's something you'd have to ask Treasury Board.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

I'm asking for your professional opinion. Should we be looking at all ads or all advertising campaigns for oversight?

10:20 a.m.

Vice-President, Standards, Advertising Standards Canada

Janet Feasby

That's not something we can have an opinion on.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Okay. Fair enough.

10:20 a.m.

Vice-President, Standards, Advertising Standards Canada

Janet Feasby

We review the advertising they send us.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Okay.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

Mr. McCauley, you have five seconds left.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Do you think $500,000 is appropriate?

10:20 a.m.

Assistant Secretary, Strategic Communications and Ministerial Affairs, Treasury Board Secretariat

Louise Baird

As we were developing the process ,we did look at that threshold. Looking back over three years, about 90% of government ad campaigns were over the $500,000 on average. In the PSPC material a major campaign is defined as above $500,000, so that was why we chose that threshold.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Thank you.