I want to ask about your experience around this. Again, it's about the transparency and how things are set up within charities. One of the issues when we had the brothers appear before us was that they were talking about how the government forced them to set up a shell company, basically, to hold all the liability every step of the way. The liability they talked about that's in the contract is a standard government liability clause that goes into every single contract.
We've heard in this very committee about the problems for small and medium-sized enterprises in terms of the liability they have to take on. If you sell 10 dollars' worth of toilet paper, you have an unlimited liability clause. The brothers explained that they created a shell company to receive all this money because, supposedly, of this liability.
I used to be head of a hospital foundation for six hospitals for seniors. Whenever we received a penny from the government—and it was quite often—we didn't go out and set up separate shell companies to receive the money.
Are you familiar with this as a standard operating practice? Do the charities you deal with go out and set up a separate shell company every time they get a grant or contribution?