Mr. Buric and Mr. Desai, one of my Liberal colleagues, Mr. Kusmierczyk, was talking about the ITBs and how great they are, etc. We laughed when we heard that, about a year ago for the Irving ITB obligations, they invested in a french fry factory in Alberta.
At what level should your association be involved in the government to perhaps advise or assist them on how we should be doing these ITBs so that the benefit is not being just pushed away as some throwaway investment, so that it's actually delivering real value to Canadians?