At this point, I haven't been able to talk with the ministers yet. I have a few meetings lined up, hopefully, but the units, the coordinators, the managers, the really low level, who are responsible for the units, they really feel that it's their responsibility. Often, like I said, they will go themselves into the office—we've seen that—so that the files are moving and the employees can get the information to continue to work on files.
They do take it to heart but they need the support from higher up, yes.