Through you, Mr. Chair, would the witness not agree that, on the face value of it, if there are departmental plans to be had and when we're looking at the size and scope of some of these businesses, not one—I had to actually do a motion at this committee to get the disaggregated data—is on the limited eligibility to bid list? I raise this with you, because a note is that the Pay Equity Act under the federal government would also require the Minister of Labour to administer a federal contractors program for pay equity, which is expected to extend pay equity requirements to federal contractors in a manner similar to the FCP. If we already know this to be.... I'm going to call it a failure, quite frankly. It sounds great on paper, but it's all process and no outcomes.
What do you recommend that we put in place to ensure that the stated policies that our government currently has, which would be in your purview in terms of the procurements programs you've outlined here today...? How do we make sure that we actually get to outcomes and don't just bandy about the language of equity without actually having a commitment to it?