I'm going to refer to something I have in front of me here, which says that in 2019 and 2020, Australian indigenous procurement outcomes had a target of $195 million. The results were $854 million. The results exceeded the target by about 4.3%.
Also, Saskatchewan Power in 2019 had a target of 3.5%. The results are 8.6%.
There's a large-fold increase in the targets. This is because they're actually implementing procurement and caring about it.
Maybe Rocky can speak to this, but Suncor has had the longest procurement process with some of the tribes in Alberta. That's kind of where corporations have taken the lead to implement processes through impact benefit agreements that have hard targets and consequences for not meeting them. You lose your social licence to operate. We almost need to get into that kind of territory if we really want procurement to make an impact.