I'd have to go back and check in my notes, but I believe usually we would go through at the federal level, because a lot of what we deal with is excise, and that's what I was alluding to for the other competitiveness model. We'd go through Finance or Agriculture and would usually cc the PM's Office and be that annoying sort of agitator trying to get as many people on that list as possible.
On June 14th, 2021. See this statement in context.