Mr. Purves, I'm going to interrupt.
I know we should ask the department, but of course the departments don't show up for the estimates half of the time. They refuse to. I know that ACOA and some of those have not shown up. It would go to the Treasury Board process. The Treasury Board's role is to, in a way, protect the taxpayer and make sure that the funding is used appropriately. Does anyone at the Treasury Board look and say, “Hold on. What's this money for?”
What's the point of the Treasury Board if we're just going to get, “Well, ask someone else”?