Right.
I think we're all focused on making sure we get delivery of product as quickly as we can, to make sure the men and women of our armed forces have the best up-to-date equipment. We also want to be cost-efficient and keep costs down, but we have to recognize that not everything is the fault of either procurement or defence. Part of it is worldwide trends; part of it is shipyards and the labour experiences they have had during the COVID-19 pandemic. It's easy to blame. I want to make sure that I'm not blaming and instead am more trying to fact-find and see where we can help.
I'm confident, Mr. Page, that you have been working very closely with the shipyards—all three of them, including Davie—to help them mitigate the challenges they face in the NSS. Can you talk to us, whether with respect to the COVID-19 pandemic or with respect to supply chain issues, about things that Public Services and Procurement Canada does to help the shipyards confront the challenges, for example, in terms of facilitating their access to steel? Talk to us about what you and your team do to help the shipyards be more cost-efficient.