I would speak about value in two ways here.
There was value received during the pandemic. I made a reference earlier to our 2021 report, which found the ArriveCAN app did improve the quality of the information collected from travellers and the timeliness of that information. For example, at the time the paper form in some instances was taking over 28 days to get to the Public Health Agency, and it was hard to follow up on a 14-day quarantine.
I would then tell you that there's an enduring value in that now the Canada Border Services Agency has used some of this to springboard automation at the border—the customs declaration form—but it's clear to me that the public service paid too much for the application.