Thank you very much.
I'm going to go back to your mandate as the Auditor General. I had the privilege of working with you on public accounts in my role as chair of that committee. I understand that your role is to take a look at the processes, rules and policies that a department puts in place to conduct its work and that you audit those processes, policies and rules.
I guess what I am asking you to comment on is that I think we really do need to delineate the difference between the responsibility to know, which would be the minister's responsibility, and the responsibility to act, which would be the responsibility of the deputy head or those who fall within the organization underneath them.
Do you believe that ministers ought to have known what was happening in their departments during the pandemic? Perhaps they weren't responsible for what happened, but did they have a responsibility to know?