I think this might be one of the issues where, in order to provide a more fulsome response, we may want to submit a brief to the committee afterwards.
I can say, as my colleague mentioned previously, the issue of outsourcing is of huge concern to PSAC. It is an issue that is raised at the bargaining table. It is an issue that is constantly raised at political levels. We would definitely agree with what you've said, and we share those concerns, absolutely. We will continue, through the avenues that I've mentioned, to try to address the problem of over-outsourcing. As my colleague said, we do think that it's more efficient to use the members we have.