I can definitely tell you that, when I was with the Department of National Defence, I had no difficulty finding people who could carry out the required tasks at the department.
I never found a shortage of competence, whether it be in the army, navy or air force, to help us work with industry and with our colleague departments to get the job done. I have a lot of admiration for the people who were in the ADM(Mat) organization and in their respective environmental organizations, and together—