Right. I guess this speaks to the lack of proper records. Is that right?
With the arrive scam issues specifically, the Auditor General's estimate is that we're looking at close to $20 million that went to GC Strategies. It didn't apply any hard skills. Close to $8 million went to Dalian. That's already half of the total, and those were areas where we know there were no hard skills applied.
Just to summarize what you said, this government is spending about $21 billion on contracting out, with $2.1 billion of that going to that management consulting category. The middleman category is a black box. We don't know. Is that...?