Government Operations Committee on March 26th, 2024

Evidence of meeting #112 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cbsa.

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On the agenda

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jonathan Moor Vice-President, Comptrollership Branch, Canada Border Services Agency

Alexandre Martel Executive Director, Procurement, Canada Border Services Agency

Mike Leahy Director General, CARM Project Directorate, Canada Border Services Agency

2:15 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Yes.

Unless somebody has some.... I think we just need a little time to finalize the amendment, Mr. Chair.

2:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

It's April 19 and eliminating (c). Is that correct, Mr. Sousa?

2:15 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

I'll read it to you, as it's just been obtained.

It reads, “That the Committee direct the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) to present, no later than April 19th, 2024: (a) all Botler AI communication with Erin O’Gorman and other employees of the CBSA; (b) the misconduct report received by Botler AI in the fall of 2022, and (c) any and all evidence pertaining to the deleted and/or missing CBSA emails attributed to Minh Doan.”

If it's being suggested that we delete item (c) from the amendment, I'm okay with that as well.

2:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Why don't we make that part of your amendment, then? We'll change the date to “April 19th” and just eliminate item (c).

Is that fair, Mr. Sousa?

2:15 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

That's fair.

2:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

We're on Mr. Sousa's amendment.

I see Mr. Kusmierczyk on the amendment.

2:15 p.m.

Liberal

Irek Kusmierczyk Liberal Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Yes. I just want to clarify that it's “present to committee”.

2:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Yes.

March 26th, 2024 / 2:15 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Yes. That's good.

2:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Can we get UC on Mr. Sousa's amendment, which is changing “April 2nd” to “April 19th”—we'll say “at noon”, if that's okay, because we need a time—and then eliminating item (c)?

2:15 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

We're also adding “to committee” after “present”.

2:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

I'm sorry. We're adding “to committee” after...?

2:15 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

It's “to present to committee”.

2:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Yes. My computer just crashed. Sure.

I'm sensing a thumbs up all around for Mr. Sousa's amendment.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We're back on the amended motion.

Does anyone wish to speak, or can I safely assume we're all in agreement with the motion? Do we need to have it read back to be on the safe side, or are we fine?

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Wonderful. Thanks very much, everyone.

If there's nothing else, colleagues, we are adjourned.