When we set up our governance structure in the pandemic, we set up two separate task areas. I was responsible for the internal task force. One of my colleagues was responsible for the border task force. All of ArriveCAN was done through the border task force. This was mentioned in the Auditor General's report in 2021. It was a partnership, at that stage, between PHAC, ourselves and a number of other government departments. Various decisions were being made minute by minute. I was not part of those decisions. I was running the internal task force, which was more focused on the activities of the organization and the health and safety of our officers.
It was a very dynamic environment. It was my understanding that things were changing very much at the last minute, and then that had to be coded to allow us to update ArriveCAN at the time. It was very complex, it was very difficult and very long hours were being worked.