I don't have any idea, Ms. Kusie, but I can say that those compliance costs are the result of different requirements and processes in different jurisdictions. The fact that it takes a lot of our SME members over a year or two just to be able to get a permit creates a hindrance to their ability to do business.
From our perspective, that ties into that fact that we're not getting things built or done in Canada, and if we're not getting things built or done in Canada, then we're not spurring economic growth.
From our standpoint, that requires something that ties into my earlier remarks. We need ambition in order to drive economic growth. Ambition without action, from our perspective, leads to empty economic promises, and we won't reverse our investment trends.
We're second-worst in the OECD in terms of business investment. We're near the bottom in terms of research and development. That all adds to the fact that if we don't have a proper level playing field for businesses to succeed, we won't be able to reduce the costs of doing business and we won't support innovation.