I completely disagree with that.
I was at the Standards Council of Canada for nine years. I was VP of policy there. I engaged with every single department and agency in Ottawa, and also the provinces. Regulators that are using standards are participating in standards development. There's no regulatory capture or industry capture. As a matter of fact, I think the biggest problem we have is that we don't know enough about it. Standards are invisible, and that's the biggest problem we're facing. We need to raise awareness about the merits of standardization in this country.
I'm sorry. I'm taking too long.