Evidence of meeting #126 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was pspc.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Annie Boudreau  Comptroller General of Canada, Treasury Board Secretariat
Heidi Kutz  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, People and Culture, Treasury Board Secretariat
Stephen Burt  Chief Data Officer and Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy and Performance Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Rod Greenough  Acting Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Jean-François Fleury  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Directions and Digital Solutions, Treasury Board Secretariat
Samantha Tattersall  Assistant Comptroller General, Acquired Services and Assets Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Karen Cahill  Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer, Treasury Board Secretariat
Arianne Reza  Deputy Minister, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Catherine Poulin  Assistant Deputy Minister, Departmental Oversight Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Wojo Zielonka  Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Finance Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Dominic Laporte  Assistant Deputy Minister, Procurement Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Simon Page  Assistant Deputy Minister, Defence and Marine Procurement, Department of Public Works and Government Services

1 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Arianne Reza

We are certainly engaged in the discussions. We support the procurement ombuds and the OAG. We respond, we are reactive, we share information and we are proactive in many cases.

As it relates to the RCMP and PSIC, do you want to add something?

1 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Departmental Oversight Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Catherine Poulin

We are co-operating. Moreover, we are sharing findings and best practices. We are making sure that people are aware of those cases, without revealing any private information. We're making sure that we also work with OGDs to leverage the capacity to prevent, detect and respond to those cases.

1 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Arianne Reza

If you'll permit me, I'll add that we also have a responsibility with the Competition Bureau and the RCMP. We run the contract fraud line, which is another way we're able to intake information, start investigations and review and refer matters.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Chair, my time is up.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

It is. Thanks very much.

Witnesses, thanks for being with us again.

Ms. Reza, just really quickly, I think what I'm hearing from a couple of people regarding the number of contracts and the piece about going to a small amount is just.... If there's a belief from your side that the system might be broken, if we have so many indigenous suppliers but so few are winning so many contracts, it is a concern. I don't need a response now, but if I could put that to you, I think it is a concern. Maybe the next time we see you, we can follow up on that a bit more.

1 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Arianne Reza

Someone can invite invite ISC to join us as well.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Wonderful. Thank you for joining us again. We will dismiss you.

Colleagues, I have three budgets that I have to get approved very quickly, please.

The first one is for—this is upper limit—$500 for LIAI.

(Motion agreed to)

Thank you.

The second is for $1,750, which is again the upper limit, for the supplementary estimates (A), including today.

(Motion agreed to)

The last one is $2,000 for the Canada Post study, which includes last week's meeting.

(Motion agreed to)

We're all good.

Just quickly, on Wednesday, we will have Mr. Doan. On Monday, June 10, we will have the Auditor General on the McKinsey study, which we commissioned, so to speak. June 12 will be for the red tape study. On June 17, tentatively, it looks like we'll have the PBO for the supplementary estimates (A). On June 19, we'll have Minister Anand. There are no supplementary estimates (A) for PSPC, so we will not see them. On June 21, we will play it by ear if we are still sitting.

We are adjourned.