Evidence of meeting #131 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was floor.
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6 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Mr. Green should know that when debate on a motion is adjourned, there is a procedurally appropriate way of resuming the debate on that matter, but you cannot just demand the immediate resumption of consideration of that matter.
You can't just make up the rules. There are rules that guide how committees are supposed to work.
6 p.m.
NDP
Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
That's precisely what I'm getting at.
I'll challenge the decision.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
No, I agree.
Mr. Green, there are procedural ways to do it. This is not the way. You cannot just, outside committee business, drop a motion—
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NDP
Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Mr. Chair, you're at the will of this committee, not the other way around. You've made a decision on that, and I challenge that decision.
Call the vote.
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Conservative
6 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
You can keep your comments to yourself until you have the floor. You do not have the floor. And please do not be giving directions to our clerk. Thank you.
6:05 p.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Marc-Olivier Girard
The question is whether to maintain the chair's ruling.
(Ruling of the chair overturned: nays 7; yeas 3 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
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NDP
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I have a point of order, Chair.
You had just articulated the rules. Mr. Green challenged the chair on an obviously correct ruling. I guess I'm struggling to understand what the new reality is now that we've stepped outside the green book and the Standing Orders.
6:05 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
What are we resuming debate on? Are we into debate, or are we...?
I don't know where we are, given that we haven't followed the rules.
6:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Yes, I'm going to confer with the clerk. I find this very odd that we actually have Standing Orders that we seem to decide we can overrule when we don't wish to—
6:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
—follow proper procedures.
Just give me a couple of seconds, Mr. Genuis.
6:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
I'm referring to Mr. Kusmierczyk.
The committee overruled. You can introduce your new motion.
6:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
We're not resuming debate, Mr. Green. You brought in a new motion.
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NDP
Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Well, it's the motion I brought in last time, which you all filibustered.
What we've discovered here—