Ms. Clarke, before we left off I asked you about ministerial accountability because we saw situations like the Trudeau Liberals' arrive scam, companies like GC Strategies—a two-person operation working out of a basement—adding no value. Supposedly, they were to source resources to work on the project, but we learned from KPMG, which is a huge company, that KPMG was instructed by the public service that they would need to be a subcontractor of GC Strategies, adding 30% to the cost of it—and there were many of these cases.
Is the problem that no one is in charge anymore, so there's no one actually trying to evaluate whether we're getting value from these contractors, big or small? As you said, though the larger companies are the most successful at winning the bids, they're not necessarily providing the best value for money.
Value for money is a whole other conversation that we'll save for another day because there are far too many cases in which, as the Auditor General noted, we don't get value for money with the Trudeau Liberals' procurement process.