Thank you so much, Chair. I appreciate it.
This has just been so fascinating. As a member who isn't often on this committee, I have to say I've really enjoyed what I've learned.
One of the questions I'm asking both of you, because you have different expertise on this issue, is about finding the right balance between in-house and contracting out. That has come up a lot. How should we consider measuring that? What do we need to assess in that process?
I will say for the public service that they are on the precipice of defending taxpayer dollars and how they're spent. This is obviously not going very well right now, so what kind of policy do we need to really find that balance of in-house, and what is the justification behind it?
When we look at a lot of these issues, the problem is that, until there's a crisis, they are very hard to explain to people who vote in our country, and we want Canadians to have a better understanding of why we're doing what we're doing when we're in government. If you could give us a little bit of thoughtfulness around that, I would really appreciate it.